rhcarvalho

rhcarvalho

Hologram - Funding & Sponsorship Discussion

Very interesting value proposition!

Having watched some interviews with Elm’s creator recently, I wanted to ask where you stand in terms of funding your full-time work on Hologram and if you’re seeking any particular form of help from the community?

I also wish you a continued healthy life and thanks for sharing your ideas and work with the world! :purple_heart:

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zachdaniel

zachdaniel

Creator of Ash

There is one tried and tested method that hasn’t been mentioned here. And it’s the one that has worked for both @chrismccord and myself. If you can build something that attracts enough users to build demand for consulting and enterprise support, then enterprising agencies who want to beat the competition to the next big thing may scoop you up to work on it full or part time.

When Alembic brought me on Ash was still very new, but now a lot of our business is driven by being the foremost experts on Ash. We sell a lot of support services and project work on that basis (plenty other tech too, not every project uses Ash or LiveView etc.)

The benefit of this route is that ultimately your only goal is to enshrine as much real value into your tool as possible. The more valuable, the more adoption, the more a services industry will build up around it.

The difficulty is that it is a long road to get here. Ultimately succeeding in these things is 50% having novel ideas and useful new technological capabilities, and 50% sticking with your thing beyond all reason.

D4no0

D4no0

I would say to at least setup simple things like github funding, patreon etc.

While it will take a big amount of small donations to reach the level of a salary, I think even a few people donating will make your life easier.

drogovski

drogovski

Maybe you can ask @lpil about his experiences and overcoming hurdles when working on such ambitious project. He’s inside the BEAM ecosystem and did amazing job with the Gleam lang past few years. You can also check the Lustre framework which looks to me that has similar goals to Hologram but for Gleam.

bartblast

bartblast

Creator of Hologram

Thank you for your kind words and thoughtful question! And I’m glad you asked about funding - I was subconsciously trying not to think too much about that problem :sweat_smile:

From my experience working on Hologram full-time for almost 2 years now, I’ve come to realize that this kind of project requires an enormous amount of focused work. Working part-time simply won’t move the needle significantly. I’ve been burning through my savings to dedicate myself to it fully, and I’ve nearly depleted them at this point - obviously that’s not sustainable long-term.

I’ll be honest - I don’t have definitive answers yet about the funding path forward. But I’m curious - do you have any suggestions or thoughts on this? I’d love to hear your perspective.

rhcarvalho

rhcarvalho

I empathize with the feelings and challenges of self-investing on the project.

When it comes to funding ideas:

  • Corporate sponsorship
  • Grants
  • Turn part of the project into a product or service

Have you consider these or other options?

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